Showing posts with label Duck Dynasty. Show all posts
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Tuesday, December 24, 2013

Free speech and work: Duck Dynasty’s patriarch’s comments are a labor issue



Ok, first let me go over the first amendment, labor in the US, and a simple truth that isn’t up for debate.

The first amendment protects US citizens’ right to speech, religion, assembly, etc. It doesn’t guarantee the right to an audience or to push your religious views on other people. Also, the area of this amendment most clearly under attack is the right to assemble, which you can see every time a protest is broken up for blocking a bridge or the street or because a permit wasn’t obtained. When a person is thrown in jail, censored, or otherwise restrained from speech that is a violation of the first amendment.

Most states in the US are at will employment states. This means you and/or your employer can cease your relationship at any time for just about anything. Discrimination claims are the exception. These claims are very hard to prove, see Lilly Ledbetter for details on that one. Additionally, I believe Louisiana is a Right to Work state, which means your employer has all the rights, and you have the right to shut up and take it.

Simple truth: In the United States of America, Christians are not persecuted. That is all. You can tell because they aren’t being rounded up and shipped off for indefinite detainment. They aren’t being spied on, well any more than the rest of us. They are the majority of our representation in government. So think long and hard before you invoke persecution rhetoric here. Especially when we’re about to talk about a man who things black people were better off under Jim Crowe.

Let me say, if the conservative right wants to come over to my side and set up some boundaries for employers they are more than welcome. But keep in mind this stuff doesn’t happen in a vacuum. You can’t argue employers can’t fire people for speaking out about their beliefs, but defend Walmart’s union busting for employees who speak out about their beliefs in collective bargaining. You can’t say A&E can’t impose their beliefs on equality on Phil Robertson, but support the Catholic Church’s right not to provide birth control coverage to their employees. Consistency is required.

So what happened? Phil Robertson, of Duck Dynasty fame, during an interview with GQ magazine said a variety of nasty stuff. I read about this from the Chicago Tribune, but then ended up have a conversation about it with a friend of mine. My understanding is that Robertson is a Christian, and that this is often played up on the show. Remember this is about a television show owned by A&E.

A&E issued a statement, “We are extremely disappointed to have read Phil Robertson’s comments in GQ, which are based on his own personal beliefs and are nor reflected in the series ‘Duck Dynasty.” It continued, “His personal views in no way reflect those of A&E Networks, who have always been strong supporters and champions of the LGBT community. The network placed Phil under hiatus from filming indefinitely.”

So Robertson was suspended from filming. He continues to have the right to say anything, in fact he should head over to Fox, they love this shit. However, A&E as his employer do not have to tolerate hate speech on their network. As a company if his statements conflict with their mission and company values they can show him the door. Welcome to corporate America.

However, according to the Tribune, Robertson will probably be back next season. . Robertson’s statements centered on the sinfulness of gays and black people under Jim Crowe. Yes, that Jim Crowe.

Robertson’s quotes:


“Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there. Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that women and that women and those men. Don’t be deceived. Neither the adulterers, the idolaters, the male prostituted, the homosexual offenders, the greedy, the drunkards, the slanderers, the swindlers—they won’t inherit the kingdom of God. Don’t deceive yourself. It’s not right.”

“It seems like, to me, a vagina—as a man—would more desirable than a man’s anus. That’s just me. I’m just thinking. There’s more there! She’s got more to offer. I mean, come on, dudes! You know what I’m saying? But hey, sin: It’s not logical, my man. It’s just not logical.”

“Where we lived was all farmers. The blacks worked for the farmers. I hoed cotton with them. I’m with the blacks because we’re white trash. They’re singing and happy. I never heard one of them, one black person, say, ‘I tell you what: These doggone white people’—not a word!...Pre-entitlement, pre-welfare, you say: Were they happy? They were godly, they were happy; no one was singing the blues.”


All the things. All of them. Forget for a moment he is wrong about welfare and entitlement programs all together. Homosexuality isn’t bestiality. People can’t pick their sexuality. I’m hoping those other things women have to offer is more than a fuckable hole, and black people weren’t better off under Jim Crowe.

Robertson also released a follow-up statement, “I would never treat anyone with disrespect just because they are different from me. We are all created by the Almighty and like Him, I love all of humanity. We would all be better off if we loved God and loved each other.”

This is where I take a moment to point out the cultural differences between us and him, this is also a generational gap. For example, my grandmother believed some hella racist things based on Cain and Able. Just saying. But this isn’t about Robertson being homophobic or racist, this is about his rights and the rights of his employers. For me this isn’t about religion at all, which seems to be a point of contention as well. Leave it to the atheist to see this as a conversation about labor not religion. Robertson can believe and say whatever he wants. But we don’t have to listen or give him a platform.

So rights, religion is becoming more and more often the citation people run to when they are trying to strip others of their rights. This is particularly true in respect to people of color, women, and the LGBTQ communities. These are communities seeing their rights systematically stripped away for everyone one victory there are hundreds (not hyperbolic) defeats. So people in these communities are going to be very offended when someone cries about their rights being violated, when they aren’t. Religion is a very clear example of how personal views are political. But Robertson’s freedom of religion wasn’t violated at all.

See, even from a Constitutional level, Robertson isn’t having his freedom of speech violated. His comments were published. He hasn’t been jailed. That said he is a public figure, and everyone has to take responsibility for the consequences of their actions and statements. The more famous you are the larger the fallout. Robertson will be and should be held accountable for his actions by his family, friends, employers, and fans.

Now, for a thought exercise: Imagine if you will that Robertson was the father from the “All-American Muslim” television show.  During an interview with GQ, he says women were happier before they could vote and when rape was a property crime. Also, that Christianity has been ruined by America because the corruption of Christianity by capitalism. He is then suspended from TLC with a similar statement as the one from A&E. Everyone is still going to run around defending his right to free speech, right?

Probably not. So let’s recognize this defense of Robertson is because he’s a white, Christian man. He expressed his views, which aren’t the views of all Christians, or white people, or men, so let’s take that concern away too.  

Thought exercise number two: Imagine, I am speaking at a conference, where in my bio it is listed where I work, and I say “I believe inequity in the US has contributed to the systematic oppression of all people. If you benefit from this in any way you are contributing to the problem. As a society we are better off supporting a new system of wealth redistribution. After all, that is my interpretation of the New Testament, specifically Matthew 21:12-13.” Can my employer reprimand me?

I am making an argument that can easily be conveyed as support of communism, though I never said communism. I rooted it in a belief and interpretation of my beliefs. It may even be factual and supported by data. But my employer does have the right to suspend me, possibly even fire me, at will employment remember.

Finally, I would love a national employee bill of rights that protects employees from dismissal for the sharing of personal beliefs as long as they are not harassing anyone else. Employers have far too much control over their employees’ lives. However, that is not the world we live in.