I'm
going to blow some minds with this post. I'm going to share some big old
secret; most atheists give zero fucks about your faith unless it infringes
on their rights of others. Sure Dawkins has some zealot follows who
replaced faith in god with faith in him, and they suck, hard, but most of us
*shoulder shrug*. I participated in a study last year, where the researcher was
studying atheists, and his questions framed atheism as a faith, but it isn't at
least not for me or any I know. It is a lack of faith, which is probably what
freaks believers out, but again zero fucks.
Thus
I don't care about what people tell themselves to make themselves happy in
their marriages. I don't care. God gives you strength to work through problems
because marriage is a partnership (or the more traditional view as a medium of
the patriarchy), thumbs up (on the first one). You'll be excommunicated if you
divorce so better work this shit out, less good, but ok. Or maybe you weigh the
cost benefit analysis of marriage for you and your partner and decided yeah,
this partnership should be legally binding because I can't think of anyone else
I'd rather be legally bound to indefinitely, and you've finally worked through
your commitment issues, good for you (and you know who you are). The only time
I care about your marriage is if someone is being abused; you, spouse, kids,
dog, I care about violence because people need help to leave bad situations.
Where
religion and I come to blows is when it starts getting in the way of rights,
which neither of the posts I'm going to talk about do. However, the later makes
some allegations and assertions that I do want to address, specifically, reason
is important when entering a marriage because it is a legally binding contract
and to pretend different is irresponsible.
People
who read this blog, are familiar with my views on marriage. I think the state
should issue a legally binding contract (like a civil union) and then religious
marriages should be sought through your place of faith. Because again, your
faith has no business in my life. Likewise, my lack of faith is leaving your
marriage alone, but the state is also being removed. Win-win-win. I also believe
people should put a lot of thought into their marriages, and not only
marriages, but living together as well (as society’s practice marriage). If you
can’t or haven’t had hard discussions about children, finances, and life goals,
maybe marriage isn’t in the cards for this partnership. Also, yeah it is a
partnership, and however works for you and your partner, who am I to say what
that should look like. I also get a little iffy when people proclaim how in
love they are, but they have put little thought into an indefinite legally
binding contract.
So
the first post, “Marriage
isn’t for you,” by Seth Adam Smith is harmless. It is all about how
marriage should be about the other person. While I have some objections to this
idea because the marriage I want to emulate, that of my parents is a
partnership, and no one can live a selfless life all the time, which is what
Smith is inadvertently arguing. There really isn’t anything wrong with aiming
to make the person you love happy. Though there are dangers to being completely
self-sacrificing especially if things don’t work out the way you plan, but hey
I’m the pragmatic kind of person who believes in separate savings accounts.
It was
the second post that got me wondering about the aims of the first post because
this second author is convinced the secular people are waging war on the author
of the first, and honestly with Christmas coming up, I’m not sure when we’ll
have the time. Sarcasm aside, I went back and read the first post a second
time, and while trite still nothing to worry about. The second post however, “Our
society doesn’t know anything about marriage,” on the Matt Walsh Blog got my attention when it cited the Blaze as evidence of the secular hate
for religious marriage, but see above zero fucks. This post argues that his
version of traditional marriage is the way to go, and he makes some assertions
about liberals, feminists, and secular life that 1. aren’t backed up by
evidence, and 2. are really limiting and reading into the original post.
Let’s start with the second, Smith’s post says nothing about gendered service
(or explicitly about marriage as a sacrament or between a man and woman) sure
some is implied, but at no point does Smith state anything controversial.
Well,
what do we know about secular marriage? Generally it is perceived to be more
egalitarian, though atheism has its own problems with sexism (I’m looking at
you Dawkins). But we also know based on new research, that
atheist have longer marriages and lower divorce rates (as do Catholics and Lutherans)
as compared to Jews, Baptists, and the non-denominational. So what does that
say about the changing views of marriage? Maybe people who look at marriage as
a contract are onto something?
I’ve
been having this conversation with my sister M about marriage. She liked both
posts, but I don’t think she believes secularism somehow is responsible for the
change in views on marriage. However, she does subscribe to an either or
perspective. I’m not quite clear on it. I have questions out about how looking
at marriage as a contract that people think through and weigh the benefits is
in contrast with “for better or for worse.”
I
want to discuss two more things: one the actual motives of the second post and
the changes in cultural interpretations of marriage.
First,
I think we can take a lot away from this conclusion:
“People
enter marriage like mercenaries. They aren’t spouses—they’re scalpers. They
give only when they get, and the amount they give will be directly proportioned
to the amount they receive. They are calculating and immature. They thing their
‘feelings’ are what should guide their union. They drift with the breeze until
the breeze no longer carries them. They think of love as a train you buy
tickets for and then ride as far as the track will take you. They don’t realize
that love is a choice and we must CHOOSE it every day until we die. Sometimes
we have to choose it in spite of ourselves and our feelings.
“That’s
the message about marriage that isn’t popular, and because it isn’t popular it
must be shouted all the louder. I say these things not because I think I am an
example of how to perfectly implement them, but because they are true. Simple
as that.
“Our
culture is poison to marriage. Our culture is poison in general. Every day
brings us more evidence of this fact.”
All
the things. First, let me say as someone with a reluctance to act on emotions
this really spoke to me for all the wrong reasons. I rarely respond with my
first emotional response instead I wait and think things through: how will this
response impact the person I’m speaking with? Do they need support or do they
need a pragmatic look? Would this enhance the other person’s situation or just
my own? When I do fly off, I feel terrible, always. Thus I am all about picking
the emotion to act on at the appropriate time to prevent as much scarring of
other people. The author talks about feelings and not acting on them, while
doubling back to stress the importance of acting on this one emotion. That’s
fine, I’m just being picky about language, and oh the flowery language. That
said, this was written by someone of privilege, which you can tell because he
is talking about more than ourselves and our feelings. A friend of mine has
been in a violent marriage, she is out now, but I have no trouble telling her
to dissolve her marriage. By pushing marriage as something that isn’t supposed
to be about you at all sets up unhealthy situations. Marriages should be
partnerships between two responsible people, and that is what is lost, though
maybe it was never there.
Oh
that last line...oh dear. I agree that our culture is poisoning us.
Specifically, the emphasis on the individual at the expense of the collective
is creating vast inequality and inequity. Oh, was that not what you were going
for? Perhaps he’s thinking about how society is held hostage by the elite few
to gut food stamps and prevent programs that could help millions? No, still,
no? Maybe he’s thinking about voter suppression, poverty wages, the rise of corporations
at the expense of people, the Texas drive through death penalty? Nope, nope,
nope. Damn, well he mentions marriage so he must be referring to the TANF push
for welfare recipients to marry for the sake of raising out of poverty, which
simultaneously devalues marriage, put some people in real danger bound to
violent partners, and is economically ineffective because of the before
mentioned poverty wages? I certainly hope this is what he’s referring to and
not something silly like gay marriage, atheism, or people freely choosing
divorce as the right choice for themselves.